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CarboN MaN



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:41 am    Post subject: ASP Sites Reply with quote

You have a nice site, and it looks like it might take off. However it always amuses me when new "ASP" specialty sites popup and they themselves are not developed in ASP, and the forums are in PHP as well.

If you want a full ASP community forum package for ASPdev.org just let me know and I will donate a full license "to the cause".

http://forums.carboncommunities.com

Ron [Carbon MaN]
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the nice comments Ron,

ASPdev.org is hardly a new site; it has been online since late 2002. We recently moved from ASP.NET/SQL Server/Windows 2003 to PHP/MySQL/Linux in order to get better search engine visibility. The site forum is brand new though.

You have a nice looking forum and I’ll definitely have a look at it.

Just curious, how did you find our site?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Peter,

I found the site via aspin.com.

Curious comments though about the search engine optimization, there is absolutely no correlation between development platform and search engine placement. The company I work for does SEO and we have no problems getting our asp-asp.net clients to number 1 in any engine.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ron,

It's much easier to create search engine friendly URLs on Apache than it is on IIS. Try creating dynamically generated ASP page with URL like the one listed below, without using third-party ISAPI filter for IIS:

http://www.aspdev.org/asp.net/asp.net-send-email

Most of our sites are written in ASP.NET, but we decided to move this one to Linux and use PHP\MySQL. I don't see anything wrong with that.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Peter,

I am not trying spark a debate about this topic, because we have had this very conversation hundreds of times within our own office, but there is also no proof that Search Engines treat dynamic pages differently than "Static" appearing pages. If you do a search on Google for "translucent balls" you will notice that one of my dynamic pages with querystring variables lists first (I realize this is a small example because it only returns 56,000 results).

While it is easier to set those URLS in Apache than IIS the method we use for changing the URLS of our ASP.NET pages is...

http://weblogs.asp.net/skillet/archive/2004/05/04/125523.aspx

This method is very easy to setup and wields excellent results without the use of third party components. However if you want to remove the .aspx in the above example than you have to adjust the ISAPI filter in IIS to map to the proper files.

There is nothing wrong with Linux and PHP/MySQL, this wasn't to debunk the methods that you have already choosen (because most people won't switch platforms once their site is developed any way) but rather listing options so that if your Members are viewing this Post they can realize that they could achieve the same options on a Windows server.

I applaude your site regardless of which platform it is hosted on, because there can never be too many ASP informational sites. Two things that I noticed yesterday though were; there was no way to contact a site admin (I had to leave a Post in the Forum, versus being able to send an email), and in my opinion you should allow the ability for Members to add articles or tutorials, nothing gives Members a sense of commitment to a site more than the ability for them to be able to contribute to making it successful.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ron,

I highly appreciate your feedback. We are going to add contact and article submission forms by the end of the week.

Are you willing to contribute any articles yourself?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be willing to post articles.

Being an ASP / ASP.NET / SQL / Javascript developer, I believe that there are many "Quirks" and tricks that should be shared, with other developers, and I always enjoy reading others articles/tutorials to learn new things myself.


Ever consider a "Scripts" section, where people could Post scripts that they have developed as well? To me this often adds a lot of value to a site, and can save developers a lot of time if they can just search a script library rather than trying to develop it themselves.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ron,

We will be adding "Scripts" section too, where our visitors can contribute code.

Again, thanks for the valuable feedback.
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